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kmacum
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posted 05-01-2003 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kmacum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I'm new to this board but could really use some advice. Last Friday I had my gall bladder removed laporscopically. The surgeon said my gall bladder was very inflamed and I had to have a drain and spend the night in the hospital.

I went home the next day thinking I would return to work Wednesday but I'm still having quite a bit of discomfort, diarrhea and pain where my gall bladder used to be. It feels like a gall bladder attack but deeper and not as long. Is this normal? I ask because the surgeon said I should be able to bounce right back.

Thanks in advance.

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posted 05-01-2003 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for audreycwalsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had mine out 3 years ago. I spent the first week in bed resting. The second week, I felt fine but the simplest of tasks wiped me out and I would have to go home and nap. What made me feel better was sleeping with a couple of pillows under my knees.

The docs had told me that I would be back to work 3 days after my surgery. I truly don't know where they come up with these estimates. Your pain and diarrhea are normal. It can take 6 months to 1 year for your liver to adjust to not having a gallbladder so you may have intermittent diarrhea for that period of time but that does go away eventually.

Best of luck.

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posted 05-01-2003 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kmacum     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks so much for validating what I'm going through. I'm feeling horribly guilty about not being at work but if the doctor had said "take a week off" then I would be okay.

One of my employees had this about six years ago and her doctor did tell her to take a week off.

The other thing I'm struggling with is the feeling of being wiped out after just a little work. I'm not in the greatest of shape but was moderately active. Now even just walking up the street a bit wipes me out.

Again, thanks.

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posted 05-01-2003 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for audreycwalsh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Expect that. I ended up staying home the second week because of the exhaustion. After the second week, it became easier but I did notice the residual effects up to a month after the surgery.

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posted 05-02-2003 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cadet Janice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had mine out a month ago and I was up and running around by day 3. Not feeling very good but by the 5th day I was taking long walks. I did suffer from loose bowels but then I adjusted my diet to low fat and I felt better. Now my sister didnt feel better for a few weeks and we both had ours removed by Lap.

Take care and take it easy.

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I got out more today than I have so far and though I had to make a pit stop in the bookstore, I'm feeling pretty good, though tired. I think gradually working my way back up to a full day of activity seems to be the right direction. I go back to work on Monday, so I have until then to really get back up to speed.

Thanks for the help.

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posted 05-02-2003 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tagger     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't forget the anesthetic takes it's toll. Not only are you dealing with the discomfort of having you organs shoved around during surgery, it takes quite a while for the anesthetic to clear your system. Hence the fatigue and other side effects....Tagger

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questran is the miracle drug for post chole diarrhea, ask the doc about it, it saves your digestive system from excecss bile acids,cholestrol and lots of rushing to the bathhtoom

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questran is the miracle drug for post chole diarrhea, ask the doc about it, it saves your digestive system from excecss bile acids,cholestrol and lots of rushing to the bathhtoom

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posted 05-19-2003 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mooser316     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Don't forget the anesthetic takes it's toll. Not only are you dealing with the discomfort of having you organs shoved around during surgery, it takes quite a while for the anesthetic to clear your system. Hence the fatigue and other side effects....Tagger

I had my gall bladder removed a week ago and I'm still having muscle aches in the back of my neck.

I mean it's not sharp pain just aches and it's off and on but it is enough to get on my nerves.

Otherwise my stomach feels okay. I noticed that when i sleep on my side I feel kinda sore when i wake up. So i guess i should continue sleeping on my back for awhile.

Exactly how long until the anesthesia exits your system? I've heard around a week.....

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i had mine removed jan 26 and it took me a good month for pain to go away and it still itch today and you cant eat fat , thats why you are runing to bathroom , your gallblader was your fat filter and now you dont got one , so fat you stay under 20 grams and you well do better and it takes a year to stratenup with your body to get use to not having it and spicy food well hurt you too kimbely

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I had my gall bladder removed last week (Tuesday June 17th). I was scheduled for Laproscopic and they began that way but because of how swollen it was and the onset of infection they had to convert to open I just got home today after spending five days in the hospital.
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I can't relate to your recovery time but mine has been crazy slow so far. Although they made me walk the very next day I still walk slow almost like Ozzy Osbourne style. The pain is finally manageable but I am wearing a Bile Bag for the next 3 weeks so it feels like something tugging on my 8 inch wound that is all stapled up. I havent had any heavy duty fatty foods which I am just planning on avoiding even though the hospital offered me a Hamburger on my final night. I did eat Eggs, 2 pieces of Bacon and a Buttered Biscuit my last day at the Hospital with seemingly no problems. For the most part I am sticking to high fiber cereals and grains, plenty of fruits, some pastas and ham, skinless chicken and roast beef for my meats.
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Im on an antibiotic for the infection and Loratab for the pain while at home. I havent had any diarrhea but I've also only had one bowel movement since my surgery which was the day before I left the hospital. I was told Loratab can cause constipation so I am hoping I don't go the opposite and get that.
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Anyone else on here ever had the open style removal?

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I also had mine done laproscopically, just about a month ago. My recovery was slower than what I had been told. 1 week and then back to work... yeah, right. It took me 1 week just to be able to stand up straight! For the first 3 or 4 days after surgery I could not get up out of a chair on my own. I had spent 3 days in the hospital prior to the surgery, and I came home on the fifth day. They had already prescribed Morphine for me by IV, because I was having very severe GB attacks while in the hospital (they wouldn't let me eat anything, but they let me have a sip of water and it gave me an attack.) So the night of the surgery, which was done at 4:30pm, they continued to give me the Morphine every 3 hours, and boy did I need it. Then at home they gave me Vicodin, which I only took for the first 2 or 3 days. The pain is different for everyone. My dr had to do a lot more manipulating than normal to get mine out, due to the extremely enlarged size.

For the first week or so I was running to the bathroom with whatever I put in my mouth. But then that began to calm down, and now I am fine. I still make sure that I eat very low fat though. I had been eating low fat for months before the surgery, so I am just keeping up the same diet. My GI doc saw me in the hospital and has always taken excellent care of me, and he is following up with me. Since my liver function tests were extremely elevated in the hospital, he's been checking them. I haven't heard anything from him, so I am assuming they are coming back down to normal.

My surgeon said that he almost had to convert to open, but thankfully he didn't. He said that if we had not done the ERCP beforehand, to clear out all of the debris from my bile duct, there would have been major, major problems and he would have had no choice but to convert to open. My gallbladder was also very badly infected, and was so inflamed that it was stuck to the wall of my small intestine. But I had a fabulous surgeon, and he promised me he would do everything in his power to keep it laproscopic, and he did. I was on oral anti-biotics for 1 week after I came home, for the infection.

Even with the laproscopic surgery, I still felt like crap for the first 2 weeks afterward. I didn't go back to work. (well it's not really work... I was student teaching. They let me come back 2 weeks ago and finish.) I still have muscle pain and get tired easily. My dr said it is 6-8 weeks before you are fully recovered from laproscopic surgery, and longer for me because I had to have a bigger incision to get the GB out through the belly button, and it didn't heal properly. Now that one is healed, but I have still got one more that didn't stop bleeding and had to be cauterized during surgery, so it is taking an extremely long time to heal. I have to wash it with peroxide twice a day. Anybody ever have anything like that?

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I've seen several who complained of diarreah, but wonder if throwing up bile the next day or longer is common? Also, how soon were you off the pain medicine?

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Hi
I had my gall bladder removed laporscopically Oct. of last year (9months ago), and was off work for
1 month cause of my job duties. I had and still have severe loose bowels with anything I eat and drink. I found milk products like ice cream will really set off diahrrea as well as chocolate, but i still eat it as long as I can be near a bathroom.
With me I had to wait for 3 weeks for surgery because my surgeon was booked, so I had to go to work with gb attacks and throwing up bile 3-4 times a day. After my surgery during recovery, I got rid of alot of bile, but that was due to the anesthetic making me sick. Even for the month that I was off work recovering I was still throwing up bile, but it went away. Everyones recovering time is different. I recently started having pain and tenderness in the area on my right side where the gb was, I am guessing its just muscle. Also, I was told by others thats had gb removals that this could lead to IBS (irritable bowel syndrome), but I dont know how true that is. Anyone hear of this?

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I'm an American living in Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. I recently had my gall bladder removed using Lapyroscopy (sp?) and I guess I must be an exception to the pain rule. Within 8 hours of my surgery I was eating regular foods and within 24 hours of my surgery I went home. I resumed a normal diet that day with the exception of BUTTER and DEEP FAT FRIED foods. I have had no problems at all digesting anything so far (1 week later) and I feel better than ever. Since butter and fatty foods were the main reason I had to have surgery in the first place, I've managed to cut these things out of my diet and live a normal, healthy, pain-free life after surgery. I guess I heal fast and my tolerance for pain is pretty high, but I really have had no problems at all other than my stitches itching

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I had my gall bladder removed 2 months ago. I was in the hospital for 5 days before surgery. I went into the hospital through the emergency with a sever attack, I could not have surgery right away because my pancrease was too inflamed and my liver enzyme count was 14,240 (it is supposed to be around 300). I was very jaundiced, and vomiting. They waited 4 days and went through my throat first to remove the gallstones that had escaped and the following day I had the surgery, I recieved 4 incisions in total, and they removed hundreds of gallstones. But during the surgery I had what the doctor called a "bleeder", which means that the stomach muscle that runs horizontal right above the ribs tore during surgery and had to be repaired. I stayed 2 more days after the surgery and returned to work the next week. I did not experiance any sickness, or problems with fatty food, but after 2 months the spot where 2 of the incisions were (the small one in my belly button and the 2 inch one are still hard and feel like a bad bruise. Is that normal? How long will it take for the spot to soften up? The other incisions on my side are fine but these two are still uncomfortable, not painful just uncomfortable. Has anyone else experianced a torn muscle during surgery? Also some people have told me that they gained alot of weight after the surgery, has anyone heard of that? I havent gained weight but wanted to know if that is one of the aftermaths.

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HeloKitty, your story sounds almost identical to mine, as far as the hospitalization and reason for surgery. I had originally planned on having my surgery done on June 2nd, but on May 16th I ate Jello, and had a very severe attack. I called my surgeon and he told me to go to the hospital and he met me in the ER to examine me. The ran blood tests, and my liver functions, especially the bilirubin were extremely elevated. I was in so much pain from the attacks that they had me on morphine. I was there for 4 nights before the surgery. I wasn't throwing up because they didn't allow me to have anything by mouth. I was only allowed a very small sip of water to take my oral medications with each morning. On the 5th day they did an ERCP and found that I didn't have any stones that escaped, but I had so much sludge in my common bile duct that there was little to no bile getting to my liver. I had a sack full of the backed up bile. My GI doctor cleaned everything out and put a drain in so that the common bile duct wouldn't get clogged again inbetween the ERCP and the surgery. The only thing I didn't have was pancreatitis. But I was on IV antibiotics for 24 hours prior to surgery, because my surgeon had a hunch that my GB was infected. (there was a big screw up in the hospital... I actually should have been on them for the entire 4 days.) I had surgery the same day as the ERCP, and my gallbladder was so badly infected that the surgeon needed to make a larger than normal incision to get it out through my belly button. It was stuck to my small intestine, and there were also countless stones in the gallbladder.

The night of the surgery I was in a lot of pain, and they kept me on the morphine. I could hardly move. Then the next morning they let me eat some jello and when that stayed down and didn't cause pain, they let me have solid food for lunch and then I went home.

I was in a lot of pain for appx 2-3 weeks after surgery. I couldn't move very well and I couldn't get out of a chair by myself for the first week. For the first 3 or 4 days I took Vicodin. I stayed home for 3 weeks. I wasn't completely free from surgical pain, but I healed very nicely. My only real problem was that some of the incisions didn't heal properly. One of them has just now begun to close, and the other closed a few weeks ago. I saw my doctor today and he said everything looks good. He repeated the liver function tests last month, and they are coming back down to normal.

What you are describing with your wounds sounds to me like scar tissue, but I don't know. It is probably because you had a muscle tear during surgery. I have still got some pain and tenderness under my right rib cage, but my GI doc says that's to be expected for a few months after surgery. He said that even though it was done laproscopically, it is still major abdominal surgery.

Now my dr seems to think that I have got some bile salts diahrrea, so I am going to be starting Colestid tomorrow morning. (mine is nothing major, just that my stools are unusually loose and come on very frequently. But not as bad as others have described.) Did you get any of that after your surgery?

You say that you had your GB removed 2 months ago. I had mine done 6 weeks ago, so you are a little bit ahead of me in the healing process, but I think I am just about back to 100%. My dr still says that I can't do any heavy lifting or strenuous physical activity since I am still having some slight pain and tenderness, but I don't want to do anything strenuous anyway! I've got to go back in 1 month, and we'll see how things look then. But the best thing is that I will never have another one of those awful GB attacks! Yippeeee!!!

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I had my gall bladder removed on April 4, 2003. I've had lots of diarrhea since then and I have recently gotten a sore back on the right side where my gall bladder used to be. I have noticed some surface pain that feels like a bruise on the right side too. Worst of all, I have also gained 15 pounds since April even though I am not eating anymore than I used to. Anybody experiencing any of the same things? The weight gain is shocking!

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I am almost 16 yrs old and I'm getting my gall bladder removed July 23. I'm captain of my colorguard team so I'm supposed to go to a Leadership Camp July 30-31. I also am supposed to go to Warped tour August 10. Do you know if I will recover in time to go to these??? Also do you think there will be a change in my recovery due to my younger age???

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Nicki9,
I think you'll be okay as long as you listen to your body. Rest, rest, rest for the week before you go and start taking a good multivitamin now to boost your body before your surgery.Some say an extra dose of zinc helps speed the healing process. The fact that you're 16 years old will probably make your recovery pretty easy. I was feeling okay after a week and I'm 45. Just take some time out to rest-remember that you don't have to do everything! Hope all goes well with your surgery and have a great time at camp and at the tour. Cheers! Katiesmom

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hey nicki, I'm 22 well I had mine out,about 2 months ago, it took a couple of days for me to recover, you should be up and around in time but that's no garentee(sp?) everyone body is different. Katie i felt like I've gained some weight..my appatite has gone down quite considerably since then. (so has my spelling)

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I got my gal bladder out July 23. My recovery was going pretty well but 4 days after surgery I started throwing up and had a fever of 103.2 so I had to go back to the hospital. It turned out that I got the flu and bronchitis. (Never made it to that leadership camp if you've read my previous entry)I recovered and I was fine until this past week when I had to go to band camp. After 2 days I started getting pains at my cut below the belly button. I thought it was jus sore because I've been practicing for 10 hrs a day but there is something hard where the cut was. Does ne1 know what this is?

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I have another question I forgot to write. I was told I was supposed to have four insitions and the diagram of my surgery showed the same, but after surgery I was left with 5 separate bandages/insitions did ne1 else have 5?

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To bgraywaco: My story is similar to yours-had gb out a few years ago. Ultrasound confirmed that it had to come out, and when I saw the surgeon to schedule, he didn't even physically examine me, just said it would be a "piece of cake" lap choly, 23 hrs in hosp. Well when I woke up after surgery, he had had to convert to an open choly because he found scar tissue from previous hyst. and append. and stone in common duct. I was really burned up because he hadn't checked me well enough to know what was in there! Ended up in hosp 4 days, and they only gave me that long because I know the ropes and found the Utilization Review nurse and talked her into letting me stay. Went home with a drain tube leaking yellow bile all the time. Felt totally wiped out, but I think that was the anesthesia as much as anything. Had to go back a couple weeks later for a "cholangiogram" - dye into the drain tube, and I thought I was gonna die-had what they called a vaso-vagal reaction to the dye. Was off work 4 weeks. Interestingly, I never had much pain after I was out of hosp. and no diarrhea. Just a "pins and needles" sensation that they told me were the nerves growing back. Also, it turned out that later, my health plan dropped that particular surgeon and his group.

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Help

i had my GB removed late july and was home in the evening and at work in 4 days. I was doing fine then 2 weeks ago I had a sharp knife like pain underneath the closest incision on my right side. I can't move without pain, i have to "wobble", I can't lift ANYTHING. After 3 minutes of diagnosis he claims it's scar tissue rubbing against the stomach muscle. I take 2400 mg ibuprofen daily and it's not getting better. Any advice..help?

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kmacum,
I had my gb removed 4 years ago on the 20th actually. I was in so much pain after going home that I could only lay back and it still hurt, plus having to take care of my kids, one was 2 the other 2 months old. It took a long time for me to heal, and I still get phantom attacks after all this time. So, hope you feel better soon

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Keep in mind there are two types of gallbladder surgery.

Labroscopic -- uses a camera and tweezers on a long pole (sounds bad, but that's it). They inflate your insides using nitrogen, find the bladder, and cut it out -- not very problematic. Recovery -- 3-7days

General Surgery -- They slice open your stomach, yank your organs out (literally), find your gall bladder which is buried under everything else, and cut it out. They usually take out the appendix while they are in there if its a general procedure. Recovery time 2-4 weeks.

The biggest issue (ask the hospital QA committee), is getting the surgeon with the lowest conversion factor. All Gallbladder surgery's start out as laproscopic, but some surgeons have to do general 20% of the time, and others 2%. Anything under 10% is considered fairly good.

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